He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. For questions like "Have you ever had mental health counseling?" Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! This experience also likely caused further stress and worsened his long-term mental health because he was suddenly out of a multi-year career, and wasted many weeks of his and the Air Force's time. Just get off the meds asap, and keep your shit together for however long your recruiter says you need to. Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. 48.8K. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. uuugh, it was hot. They are looking for consistency". What is the biggest lie you have ever told or been told, The following errors occurred with your submission. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. He might have been denied, or if he was approved, he would at least have been more prepared to handle the BMT experience. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Lying on your SF-86 is an aspect of personal conduct, and deliberately falsifying or omitting information prevents investigators from getting the full picture of who you are and how you have conducted yourself thus far. Adhd is no big deal, however if it's serious I would lie. Know all the risks and procedure limitations. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. PERIOD. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. Seems ridiculous that I had the surgery over a year ago and this is the only thing stopping me from getting processed in MEPs. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. (January 6, 2021, subversive for attending the rally - not me, but a friend). Penalties for False Enlistment As stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign, lying at MEPS regarding medical or mental health history is a terrible idea with serious implications. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. I went through Air Force BMT in the lste 70's . Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". Dont lie. This is for prior service and new applicants. No. Am I in danger like my friend said? This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. The flap is then placed back into its original position. I went through in 2011 after Lasik. So what are the lessons from these stories? Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. My recruiter sent a 10 page report from the doctor along with the 'Refractive Eye Surgery Checklist' paper my recruiter gave me. My friend says I might be in danger for being honest. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). She went to the SGTs and the Chaplin professing that she lied at MEPs. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. For both, it's to ensure that only qualified candidates enlist. What should I do. If MEPS already okayed my medical documents, can they go back and try to get more info? However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. Same with another section. I called the head recruiting office in my district and he said the same thing (trust but verify), that letters of rec are no longer considered important to packages. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. For instance another friend went to meps and when he was doing the eye portion he was wearing contacts and the guy checking him didn't even notice. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesnt take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they dont know wont hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. He passed MEPS, signed a contract, and entered Basic Military Training (BMT). I'm guessing you're done. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. Though my friend told me his exam consisted of a puff eye test, exam for glaucoma screening. The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. Wait 1-3 years off the medication. However, herein lies the problem. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? When you're an officer and in a time-sensitive situation where lives are on the line, do you really think you have time to triple check? Sometimes Its in medical professionals best interests to lie. In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. It is not the recruiters job to get you into the military, nor is it MEPS' job to disqualify you. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. Good luck to you. After a few weeks, he began to complain of chest tightness, shortness of breath, and tunnel vision, which are classic signs of Exercise Induced Asthma (EIA), a potentially disqualifying condition. Recruiter told me to lie . MEPS consult will do the corneal mapping, so no, we don't just guess at the diagnosis. Press J to jump to the feed. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. According to evidence presented at his trial, the Jacksonville military veteran was designated in July 2000 by the Department of Veterans Affairs as 100 percent disabled for bilateral blindness. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Take the advice and think on it. And if you don't know what to do, you have no business applying to the military. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. After about 2 months on the medication, he discovered that the side-effects of the medicine were worse than his symptoms and stopped taking it. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. (if I do that then I would have to get all medical records I gave to them). Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. My only option is to wait another month just to go back to get a 'check up', costing me precious time and money again, without insurance, pushing back my MEPS appointment another month or two. 73. and our He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? Then I met his boss; Sub-station commander. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Questions about joining the Marines? Handle this the right way, as you should all things. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. And also a expunged ticket and felony charges. For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. He was only talking to a counselor because his cousin needed help and he wanted to support her as best he could. For more information, please see our Never saw him again. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. Lying will. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. LASIK Surgery Checklist. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? Also, if that user name is actually your name it's a sign that you might not really be very good at this subterfuge thing. Do you think that they would have been able to successfully cope with these circumstances following the earlier problems? '02 as a Senior chief ( E-8 for you landlubbers ) the thing. 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