coyotes I just wander where his Pistol and the rigging went to. A large caliber handgun is a must. I was very intrigued by their weapons selection. Same holster also. I usually carry it in a cross-draw holster that allows me to ride a horse or ATV. I agree, whatever you have at the moment, is the best choice. Bears do not like facing off with skunks because their nose and eyes are two of their more sensitive parts. I carry my Glock G20 SF 10mm when I walk our dogs. I some what agree. @1,200+ FPS and a 300gr. wild berries and plums, and of course during hunting season (deer and elk for instance) For College Campuses! What to do? great chose but as always ,, we forget the 41 magnum.. 454=1 44=2 and that family on that show Alaska running around with them 10mm auto are waiting to be eating by a Big Brown bear. Im not against revolvers. I think it was POOR ARTICLE FROM A PERSON WHO IS SITTING IN AN ARM CHAIR MOSTLY AND BASTE ON HEAR SAY. My Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt with handloads, 300-grains, 1,200 fps (1,192 to be exact) goes with me on a lot of black bear hunts with hounds. Mine rides in a Diamond D Guides Choice model. A man accused of taking part in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot is now facing house arrest for killing a mountain lion in Colorado - with a gun he wasn't supposed to have.. Patrick Montgomery was . We were given dominance over the animals, and we all got here at the same time. Penetration is what is needed, no hollow points. They were relocating a Grizzly to a remote wilderness area. Can a wolf beat a mountain lion? Had that sow felt threatened, I wouldnt have known what hit me. 1. I also have a Ruger Redhawk in 45 Colt and I carry my hand loaded 300 gr hard cast bullets. Recoil is managable and porting helps, not like 454 casull or 460 mag, no, let me guess 500 s&w is the only option, the first pistol to come with wheels! LOL. The Complicated Truth About Mountain Lion Encroachment. 540 gr leaving the 7 barrel at 1200 FPS. The lion had killed the livestock but had not eaten them, The Mercury News reported. I was hunting in Alaska well before most of your parents even drew a breath. The 7 -inch barrel makes for a bit more cumbersome handgun, but the author feels the accuracy is well worth it. Newsweek has contacted the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for comment. However, the realization that you might have to use one to defend against a couple-hundred pounds of teeth and fangs doesnt exactly make one feel like Zorro; in fact, I looked down at it and said to myself:This is gonna hurt. The 148 grain SC is great as long as it is a hollow base, and loaded backwards with the hollow base facing out. They only penetrated a 1/4 of an inch, while the .357 round went through the skull and ended up about nine inches deep in the neck. And yet if you carry an effective caliber/bullet combination for coyotes and small mountain lions, you are seriously underpowered for the big beasts in the woods. You'd be much, much better off with bear spray. Carry the biggest freaking Gun you can shoot very very well ! Poisons, like these rodenticides, harm lions. Further.. having been in life threatening situations .. having a myriad of tools to choose from.. Is just not always a benefit. Certainly a .22 is enough to kill anything if you shoot it in the head point blank. Defensive purse swinging! Thousands of empty Ancient Churches that have been converted into libraries and or apartment buildings are testament to that. why dont you buy a BB gun for backup. Im a pistol guy now, and except for my Ruger Super Red Hawk, I seldom shoot revolvers. That said, the 4-3-1 is a simple and effective rule of thumb. Laboratory work several days after the attack would have indicated rabies. The bear was hurt so it couldnt run thank God abd CVA. What about a Judge or Governor, that can shoot .45 Long Colt or .410 shotgun shells? With that said, feel free to carry bear spray if you want. Regarding my loads, Im partial to a 230 grain Federal Hydra-Shok jacketed hollowpoint staggered with 230-grain lead cast bullet, one following the other, the first round out of the magazine a Hydra-Shok. It was the first handgun I ever purchased.. against a pack of feral dogs a .38 Special is highly effective and lethal. Their large hind legs also make them excellent at sprinting for short distances. 9mm & 38? A rabid animal is something you do not even want to touch. In general, 10mm, .44 magnum, or better seems like the best choices (including .454 Casull). The free enterprise system in Africa works for big game, and for the villagers. People living in neighborhoods around Nederland wonder why Colorado Parks and Wildlife can't do more to stop attacks on their pets. # 3. Now that we have hogs in the area, I want to upgrade to either an AR pistol in .50beo, a revolver in 500SW / 454Casull. So, I got a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70Gvt. You are on the Alaskan highways lets get that straight. The only explanation that I can think of is that it was pumped full of adrenaline. (https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf) However, two of those incidents resulted in fatalities. I saw one 200 yards from my home while deer hunting several years ago. Ive hunted brown bear three times with a hand gun only. As a retired, longtime USMC colonel buddy of mine reminded me a few weeks ago, you should be carrying, always.. Crossdraw holster. I mixed opinions about this article. He makes a grizzly look like a cub. That wont be possible until my kids are out of college, though. Question whats your life worth to you. The lion can then be shot and removed, or tranquilized and transplanted at least 300 miles (480 km) away. hard cast bullets the 44 Mag. When Ruger made a new .45 LC Redhawk capable of firing .45 ACP, I told myself I want one of those. In the middle of our camps we kept a ready shotgun on a small folding table so if a quick exit from the tents was called for, everyone at least know where that one was. Brown bear commonsense options: My choice is the 500 S&W. He didnt know what kind of weapon was used. Yes. Bear spray works on mountain lions, and the concept behind its usage remains the same for many large carnivores. Disease is a greater concern when lions are genetically isolated as in the Santa Ana Mountains, and could potentially contribute to future decline in that population. He said 45 colt loaded with a 300 grain plus hard cast bullet. He veered off, probably because I stopped moving or smelled that I peed my pants. Mace or a .45 Colt? Ive reached out for three gentlemen all of whom I call a friend for advice and a few experiences regarding their encounters. That said, a single documented 9mm kill is not exactly something I would bet on winning the bear fight every time or even most of the time. If not, always nice to have to many guns.. After wearing out a few S&W frames in 44mag, I switched to the short barreled Ruger Alaskan in 44mag. The Creator has a great plan, and I do not really miss the dodo bird or the carrier pigeon. I am 80 years old remember my dad had a meat market . Of the pistols that you listed carry the one you shoot best. If you choose a 9mm in bear country, you dont want hollow points but maybe something like Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetratorwith its solid copper bullet. When they were hunted with dogs in the 1950s and 60s, many were shot with .22 rimfire cartridges from both rifles and pistols. Mountain lions, also known as pumas or cougars, interact with hundreds of species and play a direct role in balancing various habitats across the state and other parts of the U.S. Colorado Parks and Wildlife said the man, identified on Thursday as 31-year-old Travis Kauffman, is "recovering well" after the self-defense attack on Feb. 4. Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. Personally, I'd feel the best with a .44 mag, .45LC, or 45-70 in a Marlin carbine. AFLoader, the Automated Universal Pistol Magazine Loader, https://www.fws.gov/mountain-prairie/species/mammals/grizzly/bear%20spray.pdf. Hard cast bullets at 1100 fps. chasing after and retrieving spent brass. The Freedom Arms Model 83, in .454 Casull, in a serious piece of gear. There are too many variables involved to deliberatly under gun yourself on a planned trip in bear country. I shot a 1000+ lb. The way I see it there exists no substitute for accuracy, proper shot placement, and Redhawk in double action may give the shooter a vital split second advantage. I read an article recently that said you are statistically more likely to survive a bear attack using mace rather than a sidearm. Plenty of good options in DA revolvers tried and true .44 mag, .454 casull, .460 S&W, etc. That accounted for its lethargic behavior when it quietly approached they boy and his cousin near a river in Arizonas Tonto National Forest. Spent half my working career in Alaska, hunted, fished, hiked. I have several 44 mags a .41, .45 Colt and 8 different .357s in various types and the 329PD is lightweight and with the 225s is heavy medicine for bears. Bobcat tracks will be much smallerless than 2 inches wide . Dogs and coyotes have one indent at the bottom of their pads. There are a lot of good things to be said about a shotgun and big buckshot in regard to saving ones own life! feral dogs and I usually see a grizzly when I hunt almost within sight of Cody Wy. 4 5/8 inch barrelpretty comfortable to carry . For me, Id say whatever you have at the time is better than nothing. The 4-3-1 rule is a good rule of thumb, however, I agree with the comments about a 10mm. Carry a 5 S&W 500 loaded with 700 gr hardcast from Ballistic Supply. He normally carries a .44 Magnum but opted for the 9mm that day. Then you could shoot them from a distance and up close and personal, and I dont care if it is heavy, power is knowing your prepared ! James A. Remember one thing in Bear country. I have always heard, or read, that one should use heavy for caliber, hard cast lead bullets for bear. Funny how there is no mention of bear spray in all of this as it has to be the first option compared to killing and animal in whose domain you have wandered. Lets get my own choices out of the way first. Ive been privileged enough to take a couple of black bears in both Quebec and New York and have seen many more while at work and play. RIP ammo is fine against flesh, as in human flesh. The Interior Grizzlies are not like your fat on salmon Brownies. Great advice. Brian M.- I also did the same thing with my Glock 21 accept I started with the 45 Super cartridge. The issues penetration. The study found that adult male lions were more likely to kill less but bigger prey than females. From all I know and all Ive read, .357 may work for black bear, but a larger caliber is better. It was there all night and broke its leg, trying to get free. My handloads push a 300-grain hard-cast bullet to 1,614 fps. While not nearly as large as a puma, Ive shot three rabid racoons around here. We killed about 5 hogs every week he shot them with 22 never saw any that didnt fall over dead. When the smoke cleared the bear was on its back waving its legs. Too many horses, the federal government says, are crowding the scraps of . The bullet entered at the last rib on the right side and ripped through diagonally and lodged in the base of the neck on the left side. Sources Ruger, Theyll put down vermin, but small may not put down dangerous game. That was my initial question as well. That being said i would still rather has a single action 44 mag or 45 colt than a 9mm for bear defenseanyday! He put his mouth directly on top of his head, and I think if the head had been smaller, hed have been picked up.. The authors well-worn, and well-loved Ruger Blackhawk in .45 Colt is a perfect handgun for bear country. There is nothing wrong with the cartridge. Can you shoot while on your back or while youre being chewed on? Answer (1 of 2): Plenty of them. Just my 2 cents for whats its worth. Those pesky day to day perils of life keep getting in the way. But it is is at an angle to wind between about 1 degree and 360 degrees, your changes are slim to none. The Hornady Critical Defense .410 loads (slug + 2x .35 cal balls) are rated at 750 feet per second. Companions showed up shooting to save the day. .357 Magnum revolver. As I think about it, I very well might start doing what commenter New Continental Army suggested: carry two guns. All cats are rats. Absolute .357 Mag in a revolver for me is a minimum. Did they field dress and later skin it ? The result was a dead dog with one of the bears and almost a dead friend with one of the hogs. The Inuit hunters would wait at a breathing hole in the ice. with my S&W 500 magnum. Even if it is based upon a reasonable extrapolation from current self defense doctrine. I will keep my 4 Smith and Wesson (K-Frame) Model 66 stainless .357 Combat He very clearly laid out the steps required and when someone should shoot a bear in self defense.. His commentary may still be out there on the web but a quick search did not turn it up.. Of course because political activists have infiltrated Rangers and such.. I once was a .460 Rowland fan, too, at one time. You need to be able to kill a bear in a moments notice, most times a bear is just doing what they do , when suddenly a stupid hiker startles the wild animal and It sees you as a threat ! I want to be able to pump 8 to 18 rounds in his head as fast as I can. My advice: If youre standing, attempt to avoid a confrontation; and mentally prepare yourself for the greater likelihood that youll be on your back being chewed on. But in advanced Industrialized Countries your a dying bread of cat. May 23, 2022 / by / in . Incidentally I have 2 500 Smith mags, never carry them in bear country. A farmer living in Lower Lake, in Lake County, noticed the dead lambs last week and notified the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. Despite the firepower, these guys all tried to avoid brown bear encounters. I also recommend if youre down to your last round and the bear is still coming, use the last round on yourself. A brown bears a Swiss mil-spec mugger, with built-in armor all over, especially around the brain. The BFR 45-70 was not mentioned. . Most sheep hunts have included bear encounters. Shot 3 whitetail doe in the noodle with that rifle, and it wasn,t graphic. Put three or four gun writers in the same room, and youll usually get four different answers, but I think youre seeing a common thread here. Sure, semi-automatics have their place. I havent seen any of his Buddys to verify his story, But they like Jack, they have all passed away. But again, as the species is protected, they were unable to carry out efforts to catch it. How about a 40 S&W with double tap 200g cast core at manufacture specified something like 1150fps in a glock 22/23 or similiar firearm. There are many rifles to go with other calibers that would be nice to have same caliber bullet in pistol and rifle (i.e. I am also, by trade, a Professional Land Surveyor, so my work hours are often spent in the remote wilderness areas. Mountain lions dont have a reputation for requiring powerful firearms to put them down.. Loaded with good ammunition, either of these Smith & Wesson .44 Magnums will make excellent bear medicine. Now, the black bear is generally speaking a rather docile creature, and most of the time it will make every attempt to run away from man. I dont plan to go out in the woods or scrubs any more but the S&W 629 with a 8 & 3/8 barrel Ive owned for 25 years will serve me well against black bears or hogzillas here in sunny Florida should the need arise. Not like that should be a problem anyways. You have entered an incorrect email address! Rifle first if at all possible. A mountain lion would win a fight against a wolf. Methinks your anti-Judge/Governor bias is showing. Lesson learned never keep food for bears in your camp site. There are no stopping calibers; only stopping shots. The third racoons I shot was hit behind the heart lung area with a 7.62x 25 , it flinched from the shot, turned, growled, and continued towards a timbered embankment and possible escape. Youre 100% correct. This is largely down to a lack of resources in their own habitats. Bear is a bear, you underestimate them at your own peril. might be ok for a black bear, but will likely piss off a coastal bear. Nine for the bear and the 10th for me if the nine didnt work. I dont recall if it ran on Discovery, National Geographic or The History Channel. 44 mag or most any other caliber in those ranges if the person using it knows how to shoot. The hunting part mostly Brown bear hunting. Mountain lion facts. Colorado Springs, Colo. The craggy mesas and sagebrush valleys of the West have a wild horse problem. Any suggestion that a 9mm or 357 magnum is any gun better than none in brown bear country is ridiculous. Between airlines, public transportation, hotels, ferryboats, etc. If I had not shot the hog with a .44 Magnum I think it would have ended very badly. The local police department and/or county sheriffs office can also respond to mountain lion-public safety calls to a 911 operator. So, no .38s but the only options arent .44s, 454s, 460s 475 linebaugh or 500s. A doe once got a hoof caught in the top of a cyclone fence, near our property. Im not a hunter, but a hiker. A black bear sow protecting a cub from your invasion of their space will have her way with you till she decides shes done. My gun will push the strong 300-grain hollowpoints to just under 1,200 fps, and thats a formula that can end a confrontation. Its been years since Ive regularly shot revolvers. My wife carries an old Model 60. An attack by a pack of feral dogs is not anything like an encounter with a single individual or a shooting competition. Federal, The bfr is very easy shooting postal and extremely accurate. Sep 25, 2007. I also have a small Freedom Arms in .500 Wyoming Express. An interesting piece giving advice from expert typewriter shooters to bear hunters. Required fields are marked *. Answer (1 of 12): There's a lot of variables in play with this question and a 9mm pistol round is NOT a good round to take down a large predator with. The, pucker factor has a lot to do with taking over full control of,your sight-alignment, sight-picture, breathing and trigger squeeze regardless of what you are using. 357. On my next trip I will get a gun with a 4 barrel!! most likely you sleep in your rig also. OMG! Its the sick, injured, old one that will risk human contact. Id have gladly traded it for a snub-nose .38 Special. But please.no one has mentioned marine flares..is the problem that they do not work or that they are too slow to activate. hard cast projectile @ 1,300+ fps. A few years back I went to Alaska, rented a 44 pickup camper,& spent 6 weeks in the boondocks, with only my wife. you spent 6 weeks on the road system not the boondocks If you are in the boondocks whatever that means? Here in Upstate New York we have a very healthy black bear population, and highway sightings are quickly becoming a regular occurrence, as are the classic raids on bird feeders and garbage cans alike. Mountain Lion Foundation +P Semi-Wadcutter HP Ammo [38G] - $20.95 Or if you are really recoil sensitive these would work pretty well, non-plus p and low velocity. As most readers are probably aware, a cougar (aka mountain lion) attacked a couple of mountain bikers in California last month [ Outside Online News: January 9 . I live in Alaska and Ive turned a Glock 21 into a 460 Rowland. He said while the animal tried to bite Pauls head, it didnt actually do it, only slightly clawing the boys back. There is no doubt that bigger and more powerful handguns are preferable for hunting but self protection at close range differs greatly from hunting as it requires quick, often multiple hits, from close range while under extreme stress. Great point with the Redhawk recommendation! If you are confronted by a bear, leave the deer or food and do not run as this triggers the predators instinct to charge after you as prey. He ran to get the gun, and when the animal started to investigate whether P.J.s head was bite-sized, Smith told him to shoot the animal, which he did with one extremely well-placed shot. The most restrictive, California State Proposition 117, passed in 1990, prohibits the killing of any mountain lion except in the case of an animal that poses a direct threat to people, pets, or . I read that several times as well. The Casull is an updated and slightly elongated version of the .45 Colt, fully capable of firing .45 Colt ammunition. This makes cougars great jumpers, able to leap from the ground 18 feet up into a tree. I carefully googled this story using the locationImpossible to find any story that confirms that what you said id true. Ive never seen too many other rounds do so much damage. They are thin skinned and with a broadside shot would drop it like a rock, with one shot. Mountain Lions are extremely fast, territorial, and capable of seriously injuring and killing even an adult human. Mountain lions dont have a reputation for requiring powerful firearms to put them down. If I am packing meat, I carry it in a shoulder holster. Attacks continued and now a lion is dead. "It is unlawful to kill a mountain lion without a permit for the California Department of Fish and . and when was the last time you saw a wolves, let alone a bear.?????? When it comes to wheel guns should they be ported? so dont tell me or others you rough it in the Alaskan wilderness because thats bullshit. concealed carry and for the outdoors: hiking, fishing, camping, bird watching, gathering No bear or cubs life is worth a human life. I have had to kill a couple Grizzlies, and have had numerous Mexican stand offs, over moose or caribou kills. Anyhow, nice article and just consider the glock 10 mm if you are comfortable with a semi-auto tyoe pistol. Rain, Wind, Snow all those things can and will reduce the effectiveness of Bear Spray much more than they would affect the employment of a firearm. A 300gr bullet at 1000 fps has 666 ft-lbs of energy. If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. I have seen that cartridge fail horribly on black bears and hogs. Not only is a 45 Colt that is hand loaded right there with the 44 magnum, or even out performing the 44 magnum. The 357 magnum is able to kill a bear much better then the 9mm and the 38 special even though they actually shoot the same bullets. Buy .357 magnum at the minimum. Having to cock it every time I shoot. .357 magnum will probably work as long as you're not running into any bears .44 magnum is preferable. Perry can dispatch a coyote with a Ruger LCP you most certainly could do it with .38 Special +p or not and it will also kill a mountain lion. I am reminded of a survival show that aired a few years ago. No thanks. Fortunately, I had a spare cap in my pocket. Not totally true. Regardless, I draw the line at 10mm and 45 Super as my bottom 2 choices in bear country. 45 & 9mm do not get past the fat layer to break bones and damage vital organs. 45acp . Handloads push a 300-grain to just over 1,000 fps, so it just cracks the code. from the bear. Your bear protection gun is never going to be your regular carry gun, no long afternoons firing box after box it is a single purpose tool. Ill take the capacity of an auto loader in 45 Super, 10mm or Rowland any day. Hunting and slaughtering are hardly a comparison. The animal slain by the man charged on Tuesday was a mountain lion known to wildlife biologists as P-38, a male about 7 years old believed to have sired four litters of cubs, said Karen Wold . For the outdoors person a revolver can likewise They only work if you have them with you. You can keep the Roland! .357, .44 mag, 10mm. Something else. Sometimes I carry a .44 Magnum with 300-grain cast bullets, but never anything smaller for bear protection. About ten years ago I killed a threatening brown/black bear with a .357 from an SP101 snubby. Hard cast lead or perhaps some modern all brass penetrators would probably be better. We now have on earth more humans than were ever born since the beginning of mans evolution and with the masses of excess pollution we have already destroyed the planet we are living on. Year later, shot a black bear same ammo, but out of a desert eagle way better results. His eyes were as wide as saucers, and he was taking strides twice as long as his normal gait would produce. In Africa the wholesale slaughter of wild game was done to make room for agriculture and the safety of the farmers many of whom blasted off their feet the entire big game population for miles around. If the attacking bear is perfectly downwind, you will have some chance with bear spray. Owing to circumstances at their place, I wasnt able to go. It did not take long to realize that the recoil of the .475 with 425gr. That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. You think living in the Alaskan bush 24/7/365 for 33 years as a bear guide makes you an expert? Radically Invasive Projectile G2 ammo works! A lion is a powerful and lethal predator and can easily kill a mule however a mule can be quite an adversary. My colleague and friend Bryce Towsley (brycetowsley.com) is a veteran gun writer who has considerable experience with bears of all sorts. I mostly use single action pistols in 44 Mag, 45 colt, 454 casull, and a Bowen 475 Linebaugh that is my favorite. One California farmer found herself caught up in a conservation dilemma, after a wild mountain lion attacked her ranch and killed her animals. Exactly. It provides some seemingly good info, but some is just confusing and troublesome. reviews, A revolver is a one threat gun so unless you are Jerry Miculek you will run out of ammo with a revolver. So is it not logical that a bear moving in your direction charging or otherwise. You go first, Ill watch. Once you get over 300gr. Found the bullet in the other ear, Weighed 270 grains. 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