Guess it goes to show how individual it all is. However, I would recommend ones like TLB and Skolyx that I have had experience with. The two lasts I mentioned are super comfortable straight out of the box, and I can wear them all day without the slightest discomfort. Alden Aberdeen: 9.5E fits me really well with medium socks. Japan: Scotch Grain, Otsuka, Miyagi Kogyo, Oriental. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! Its just the next level up. Nice article , but why the article call these cheap shoes? Besides a very enthusiastic and engaging chap in the Jermyn Street store, whose name I have forgotten, they could do with taking lessons from the brands mentioned in this post. I used to be in England regularly, but missed the chance to check out their below-5 widths. Actually, given the reader survey we did last year and how much the average reader earns and spends, I wouldnt be surprised if most do spend that regularly on their shoes. Ive always found the customer service at EG shocking. The EG just feel better than both ever did straight out of the box, but Im not sure how psychological that is! I would also like to mention that apart from PS, I also read Jesper Ingevaldsson, who was featured in this article, (www.shoegazing.com) and Justin FitzPatrick (www.theshoesnobblog.com). Meermin (above) has also become big, mostly in the US. Its got a bit of a shorter toe relative to the heel to ball. Im thinking of trying something different and the George Cleverley Ready to Wear line has a whole cut I particularly like the look of. Red Wing Postman: 10D, wore for a year but sold due to low volume toebox. You can use these comfortable shoes to show up appropriately for most events, in the most positive ways possible. Extraordinary. Could not find info. Normal arch/instep. Overall - and this all has to be generalisation - with English shoes you get a solid make and good quality control. Still tapered in in waist and heel for a comfortable lock in, but with more room in the toe box and at the ball. Side-note: >90% of the sneakers I've worn over the years have been 10D, mostly Vans growing up and later Asics. Red Wing Moc Toe: 10D, narrow in ball of foot. These are all a pretty similar level of make, though you lose a little in the raw-material quality among the cheaper ones, such as Septieme Largeur." I have not personally verified it since, but I believe that I am at the mid-to-upper end of 10.5 based on other fits. They claim it will still last as long and that the defects are just cosmetic, but still, it may not be what you expect. The level above that is made in Japan, and includes brands like Scotch Grain (above) and Otsuka, with brands like Miyagi Kogyo and Oriental on a level above that. EL, I think you kind of answered the question in your first statement. I live in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam so I know these companies. Ive tried Lobb, G&G and EG and have notice better uppers but not an increase in comfort compared to C&J handgrade that to me, are the sweet spot of the English shoe made in Northampton at a sensibly lower prices than the top makers. Have you ever tried or heard of Idrese? Even so, I do believe that the Meermins are the best value-for-money among the shoes mentioned. *Although I trust Jespers impartiality, it needs to be stated that he now works for Skolyx, which has its own shoe brand and sells other shoes. Not sure the best place for this, and realise there is no correct answer but was wondering your view on the proportional cost of shoes to suits, shirts etc? Nice idea for a thread, but does anyone have experience with carmina's wide width options? I would agree that some change has happened since Stollenwerk sold the company to an investment fund, they seem to have gone into the greed and certainly for some cost cutting somewhere to make up for the handicap of making in the US. Rancourt 114 9D: Great fit sometimes. Yes literally hard as rock but very nice looking in their box.. Agree Alan, buyer beware that they are extremely hard to break in. How to measure your feet. Will post more fit notes when they arrive. They wear down quickly.. Myrqvist, which we mentioned at the start, is one of these and uses fairly good raw materials - sourced from well-known tanneries like Du Puy in France. Hugs my foot like a glove on all sides, including the arch, but I wouldn't mind if the heel was a bit more snug. There are many levels at tanneries, and cheaper brands dont get the same quality or the first selection. Well Id imagine the aim is to make more money, given that some will know the Cleverley name and want to buy into it. Since that was my advice in your survey, I can only but congratulate. Among the many pairs I tried a pair of color 8 CXL beefrolls were the best fitting. Carmina is the best of the Mallorca-based shoemakers (which includes Meermin and TLB Mallorca), but is more expensive than either Meermin or Spier & Mackay by about double. The 5th toe of my right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe. The shoe comes on Meermin's Ama last, which is of a classic and elegant shape. Now, Id probably look at a boot like the Conniston or Islay. Wolverine 1000 mile 9D: Gusseted tongue made the break in a little hard at first, overall a bit narrow and snug in the waist, but a very comfortable fit when broken in. I would also include Lof & Tung on this list its Skoaktiebolagets house brand (though I havent seen any in person), and their customer service is excellent too. Depends on the shoe store whether they stock them though. I also had disappointing experiences with Myrqvists quality. Trickers town shoes, especially the wonderful Belgrave adelaide, top any C&J shoe I have in terms of comfort and build. Trickers 4497s: 8.5 is a little too short, while 9 feels too big in most pairs. I could fully close the lacing with the shoes still being a little loose with 9E. Good point Ben, Im not sure. Ive purchased two pairs over the past 10 months from brands in this article. I wonder how much more comfortable it would be. Red Wing 8 last 9D: Decent fit at first, fairly comfortable once broken in. Since its a smaller area than bespoke tailoring, its even more sensitive for these things. Many people have fallen in love with the Carminas because of how good-looking they are. However, a really bright or unsual patina has never really been my style, and is becoming even less so. Unfortunately they offer less Goodyear welted shoes these days. I dont know anybody who owns a Mont Blanc wallet, but I know plenty of people who own Mont Blanc pens, and I dont see that ever changing. Their prices and quality is a good balance. Focus were on shoes below 300, Carlos Santos nowadays is a bit above that, but definitely good for the price. Thursday Dress last 9.5D: Quite narrow, I wear thinner socks with these. No issues on 5+ hour rides. Carmina Shoes - Definitive Thread (reviews, advice, sizing, etc) - official thread. It will be creeping in going forward too, whenever it makes sense. To be honest, I wasnt impressed. Sure David. * **Thomas George Popes** 7.5UK quite snug, grips heel well but pinches the toes a bit. Jesper thinks Skolyx (above) is better in this regard than the others, though he is biased*. From my personal experience, there has been a decline in quality in inverse proportion to price increases. HOK 9: Acceptable fit. In my experience, AE is not second to the former neither in leather quality nor make, and features more comfortable footbeds (especially vs Carmina), only it is not as sleek. I believe that I am at the upper limit for this last. I was about to replace my decades old AE McAllisters with a new one, but upon inspection, the newer shoe (same model) had wonky stitching and sloppy finishing. Jesper concludes by saying: You cant expect to get a really premium shoe for an entry-level price, and you shouldnt get too excited at places that promise that. Jack, I havent looked at Weston in quite a while Im afraid Jack, but from what I remember they are around that kind of level, yes. They had also banned any online store to ship them out to Canada. Carmina shoes are stylish, fashionable, chic, and very good-looking. If you don't have a lot of volume I would be pretty cautious with their loafers. F. E. F. Extra-wide. The close-channel stitching is also a plus, you know youre getting more handwork for the soles. I will refrain from commenting on fit unless people think it will be helpful. Viberg 310E 8.5: Roomy in all directions but toe ball lines up with lowest part of the sprung toe forefoot and widest part of foot lines up with widest part of boot. In the end I find both brands run small and you rather need half a size or for Bobbies an entire size larger than what you would have with Santoni for example. 210 last 9.5D: Bad fit. No more Stows for me. Sendra is a factory that makes for a lot of cheaper start-ups, because theyre so flexible and have no minimums. Although, suede uppers would take a long time to wear out. Take a ruler and measure between the base of the paper to the marked line. I still recall trying them for the first time after having worn Carmina for some years and noticed the difference instantly. Here the belittling is by Jesper, but somehow feels like follow-through of the same swing. Theyre all Spanish except Septieme Largeur, which is French but made in Spain. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Simon's books and product collaborations are available to buy through the Permanent Style shop. Moreover, theres no industry standard in how to name these things so anyone can call anything what they like. The fit/finish/materials of my $600 Alden boots is markedly different from my $350 Allen Edmonds Dalton boots. He replied straight-faced: No, we only use the best full-grain calf for our shoes. But the key issue from my point of view is that AE offers 10 widths across all the models in their portfolio, where none of the Northamptoners are able to offer more than 2 and only for very few of their models. I have been wearing several pairs for ~18 years without an issue besides replacement of a couple of degraded rubber heel soles. Ive never been sure if I am just more accepting of shoe prices or if I am proportional as I bulk at the idea of spending 400 on a jumper but happy to buy C&J main line. Carmina Inca Chukka - 10 UK. ??? The fact is that Cheaney have one flagship store and the vast bulk of their business is on line whilst JL are paying for expensive locations and staff explains all at the end of the day its not so complicated. Carmina shoes are well-fitting shoes that grip your feet firmly on the go so that you get more balance and stability in your motions. The comment is only in reference to leather. Viberg 2030D 9: The 9D is probably the best fit I have from Viberg, or tied with the 2040. The quality of the leather and overall construction is superb. Jesper's information was based on information by two Carmina retailers. I have a review of a pair of them here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2016/08/12/review-crownhill-shoes-the-stewart/. For something more formal I turn to Carmina which provides the best bang for the buck. Its a company started in 2014 that I discovered today. For the price of a brand new AE Id rather get a pair of C&J or Carminas for a little more. "But at the same time, I do think you get better value now for a 200 shoe than you did 10 years ago, despite inflation, because theres so much more competition. I have gone through years of posts comments where US readers often praised the company and you alleged unawareness about it, sometimes citing Alden as the only US quality shoemaker known to you. I hope that makes sense. Parkhurst 602 Last 9D: Fit well off the bat, little to no break-in. Also, I dont think youve ever written about painted patina on shoes . Ive since moved on to other brands because I wanted higher quality. Theyre not as refined as the other Asian brands, but stand out for making Goodyear in the old-school way, stitching directly to the insole. So, rather than the gemming method that most modern Goodyear shoes have, where a canvas ribbing is used instead. Switching to thin socks gives a very relaxed fit. Buttero Tanino: UK9, still breaking in but fits well. Its a good time to be a consumer in this area.. Rancourt 115 9D: Great fit. * **Alden Aberdeen** 9D loosened up a bit with wear, * **Alden Van** 8.5D comfortable in shell, * **Antonio Meccariello Aeris Soft Square** 8.5UK excellent fit, * **Antonio Meccariello Chisel II** 8.5UK bit loose all round, I suspect half a size down would have fit better but a become a bit tight at the pinky toe, * **Berwick1707 240** 42EU quite snug all round, perfect for a summer loafer, * **Carlos Santos 1944/r1s** 8UK fantastic loafer fit, * **Carlos Santos 401/s** 8UK forefoot a bit roomy, * **Carmina Pina** 8UK too much heel slip for a loafer, * **Carmina Simpson** 8.5UK instep too low, * **Clematis Ginza unknown oxford last** 8UK (made by Joe Works, also too low an instep), * **Common Projects Achilles Low** 41EU Fits but toe box feels too low, * **Common Projects Achilles Low** 42EU Great fit, * **Crockett & Jones 314** 8EUK snug all round, not much toe room, * **Edward Green 184** 8.5UK fantastic loafer fit. *UPDATE: Carmina say they do not use plastic heel stiffeners. Allen Edmonds is perhaps most similar to Loake or Barker. 18 Last 10: Great fit. Barefoot, thick socks, whatever. Good arch support, toe box is low, but not too low, and just an all around comfy fit from day 1. Meermin US UK Narrow. Suede from CF Stead and rubber Victory soles. I have not found any better service than that provided by the C&J shops in Jermyn Street (and actually at the factory shop on the one occasion I managed to visit). **The older 2040s are tighter, because of the older style of heel pad, if you find it too tight I recommend considering swapping out the heel pads. All leather if even sanded a tiny bit to remove flaws in the skin is corrected. D. C. D. Medium. Check the Noble Shoe eshop for several decent ones. Thanks EL. So, in summary, if you look at the price, most of Carmina's shoes cost 329 or 395 or $475, and for that amount of money, the range of last you get is quite good. I have loafers on their Xim and they're too big for my by a hair. Asics GT2000: 11 - Perfect fit. Carmina shoes are better than Meermin shoes. A nice watch is also showing something. Id like to add a little comment on the Vietnam shoe makers here. NF Bootmaker 44: Tried these on and this was a great fit, a bit long length wise, but the boot is a smidge narrower and the waist is really tapered. With Carmina you can get a more refined shoe - closed-channel stitching, a more bevelled waist and so on. 65 last 10D: Bad fit. These shoes are well-appraised by people worldwide for their comfort, style, and proper appearance. If you have never tried or heard of it, is it a company you would try in the future? Crockett & Jones (bench grade): I own the Alex (wholecut on 348 last). Meermin Burgundy Oxford Shoe || Men's US 8 UK 7 E. $50.00 + $32.48 shipping. This helped me understand why sizing as 10D was actually very bad advice and never worked out well. Interesting times and personal style journey. Too tight in the vamp and mid-foot. I once dumped a veritable fortune on a pair of bespoke Berluttis that caused me so much physical discomfort I was left with the impression they had been designed by the Gestapo. Im afraid Im not great on recommending sizing issues like that. White's 50/50 9D: This is now one of my best fitting lasts. However, they are less fashionable than Carmina shoes because of the quality of their finishing. Maybe a little wide fitting but enjoyable and no breaking in required. I normally wear medium weight socks from Darn Tough and Wigwam unless otherwise specified. Here there the number of brands increases, particularly with start-ups. I have been tempted for a while to try a pair of bespoke shoes to see if it truly is a large step up in comfort. This includes Loake 1880, Carlos Santos, Morjas, Myrqvist, Skolyx, Grenson, Carmina and TLB Artista and Id like to share some of my experiences. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'footslide_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_13',107,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-3-0');Let us see what Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes look like at first glance: One of the most elegant shoes out there today is the Carmina shoes. Velasca uses a Blake/Rapid construction, so not Goodyear welted - but remember Blake/Rapid is more similar to Goodyear than it is to normal Blake. It's a strange feeling last, but I can make it work. Im trying to decide between the following two options: 1) Myrqvist Molle Loafers @ 151 per pair, 2) Trickers Elton Loafers @ 225 per pair (on sale). Very hard to break in and stiff leathers. I like my shoes with a long point extra shiny..low like Aldos Down by half. Ive a pair of Barker Grant that I must have worn 50/60/70 times and its only last week I had a topy (SVIG rubber) put on, the cobbler reckoned the rubber on the heel hadnt worn enough to warrant replacement. I bought AS through him when they were the best value for money in higher end shoes then moved to C&J on his advice. Theyre a good place to start: a baseline of quality. Why not economical or cost effective or something else which has more neutral/positive connotation unlike cheap. For me, thats the right balance: There are diminishing returns to the higher quality make you can get with more expensive manufacturers, and a lot of my enjoyment comes from having shoes that are fit for particular purposes e.g., sleeker oxfords to wear with suits and smarter trousers, chunkier brogue and split-toes for more casual outfits, rubber soles for wet weather, unlined loafers for the summer, etc. This separates footwear from most of fashion and it feels good to support the companies that work towards this. Red Wing 8 9D: decent fit. regards judging quality by calf not suede? I wear a US10/UK9 and opted for a UK9, on Pepe's recommendation, and the fit is spot on. HOK 8.5: Bad fit. It's other Asian brands that are likely to become known in the West first, though. Fit seemed good at first but toe box is just too narrow for extended wear. I think calling things cost-effective when you just mean cheaper would be a needless euphemism. These shoes have seen some heavy use and have been worn at least twice as much as the previous pair. See and interact with all Instagram stories @PermanentStyleLondon. Whites Barrie 8.5D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. For more comparison, check these pairs out:CARMINA SHOESMEERMIN SHOES. I am just wondering if there is anything else I am missing. Apart from the differences in material qualities, a major difference between Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes is the price tags that these shoes are sold and distributed for. The main concern for me is finding a last shape that fits my high instep and once I find that last I stick with it. You are using an out of date browser. I will look for a similar style shoe latest next year. No one see this though, its only for yourself. Sizing down 1 from your HTT could be tricky. The Hand-Welting construction of these shoes makes them be very good dress shoes that can fit into any wardrobe quite easily. Id highly recommend it for more detail all of these brands, particularly on the technical side. Again, a big thank you to Simon and Jesper for the article. I recently received these is shell and I'm still breaking them in. Other than that, interesting article. Vass (via Ascot) here. My favourite pair of C&J have been back to the factory four times for refurbishment. Certainly compared to other parts of the shoe. Seems to be a popular thing to write now. The Brannock size (heel-to-toe) will be the top parent comment. Looking at the Genova last. Like the arbitrary claim that the soles on English soles wear out more quickly than European ones. Some of it is differences in leather and lined vs unlined, but a lot of it is lasting differences. Lots of toe room and good heel feeling. Brannock Size: 10D/E with flat feet and extra wide around instep. Had the same experience with a pair of Oxfords from them and asked their sales rep about it. REGULATION AND US. Cnes (above), for example, has been exhibiting in various fairs around Europe, looking for retailers, and is very nicely made, with a bevelled waist and otherwise refined make. With Meermins, you get a refined-classy style that is set to rule the modern scene. The lower tier shoes arent and if C&J or EG are out of reach, go with Alden rather than any of the cheaper Northampton brands. Absolutely do not take it 1.5 down from Brannock like Viberg recommends. I suspect the 1035 in 9.5 would fit me perfectly. if youre going to write mean spirited attacks on someone you shouldnt be surprised that they defend themselves and reply in kind Thats a point worth emphasising. 1 down the toe could be getting very short. What type of heel stiffener do they use? But its a not a secret that English brands, in general (this for example does not go for the premium brands) use less good leather soles than Spanish and Italian makers of welted shoes, in general. I agree that they might be a touch conservative (although they do now have more stylised lasts compared to a few years back), and that youre less likely to get more interesting leathers like museum calf or patinated. Grant Stone Leo 9D: Great fit all around. I suppose they get away with it because the overwhelming majority of their customers arent that knowledgeable about shoes or leather quality. Thats the opposite advice I received on rain from someone else. The quality difference was like night and day and Id have no hesitation recommending the Loake 1880s as a good budget shoe. Here in the States, the mark-up on most of these brands, when one can get them, tends to be breathtaking. Slightly low instep and volume. What Id like to know is how much higher quality will the Trickers be over the Myrqvists? If you will be ordering from the Trickers website, I suggest going over the fine print. Hi Jesper, thanks for the clarification. MASSIVE. This goes for Allen Edmonds now as well, where they will routinely reach 700 if bought directly from the manufacturer shipped out to Canada. I mean, things can go wrong, I see no problems with that, but then it has to be handled properly and fixed (Ive had a finished pair redone from two different makers, in one case it was since an error was made on one of the things modified on the lasts from the fitting shoe, on the other a small damage happened when the lasts was pulled. Good plan. The difference between, for example, C&J and EG is the same as the difference between them and the cheaper shoes. So do only the toes get more room or is the hole shoe more roomier? Snug toe box, foot extends past footbed on sides, narrow waist causes significant bowing. In durability? So far I remained unconvinced but then again I dont know any better. They look nice but if I know Ill be in shoes the entire day and might walk a bit I do not wear them. Additional notes about feet:I was measured as 10.5D by an Allen Edmonds store associate several years ago. Still pretty good value (it is the company I originally used before I could afford better) but not nearly as good as it was some time ago. Many thanks in advance, If you want something that very versatile, I wouldnt go with burgundy. "Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which aren't as good as Spanish brands in general. Crocketts and Carmina are in there largely for context, as mentioned. People need to understand that expensive shoes will always give you your best return over time, especially when theyre taken care of properly. . I have Meermin boots and happy with the quality. I brought a pair of black Oxford brogues in a classic last for 109 that were from the previous season and a pair of Dark Leaf Calf Oxfords for 150 that had a negligible fault (even the staff had to look it up as it wasnt obvious). That point has been removed until it can be proved either way. I have dainite soled storm welted trickers penny loafers and also commando soled stows, and I cant see myself wearing them much with anything aside from jeans or super casual chinos/corduroys. The Shell Cordovan, non-Alden Shoe and Boot Thread, Find reviews, recommendations, tips about and appreciation of fine cutlery here. Many thanks Simon as usual for the very informative article. Roomy toe box, heel is snug and hugs my foot all around. Unstructured toe box feels a touch low, * **Yanko 955** 7.5UK fits snug but comfortable with thin socks to start. You found 1 size in that last worked for you though? The latter will in general be more durable, since its thicker and consists of all the parts of the leather. For example, I got two new boots from the UK this week: a shell Carmina balmoral at just over $500 USD and C&J Galway 2 at just under $390 USD. I think I could tell the difference between a standard C&J and EG from a distance, though I wouldnt like to put that to the test! * **Vass P2** EU41.5 comfortable fit but too much toe volume and instep. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. Also I heard that they are actually trying to improve or change things constantly. Hi Simon, do you know if JM Westons shoes are at a similar level to Crockett&Jones Handgrade? (For a RTW dark brown oxford, although I could stretch my budget a bit more, up to 400 euros). The soles are more durable, the calf leather takes polish better and ages better, elements of the make lead to extra comfort (as do the materials), the make is finer and so looks better, and so on. Rancourt 113 loafer: men's size 6D is pretty good Meermin Hiro derby: men's UK 4.5 wearable but the heel is . Kyle from Baker's later told me that my instep width is more like EE/EEE, which is what causes many of my fit issues around the mid-foot. I have had to send back two pairs on separate occasions that both had massive construction errors. Both these shoes are true to size, but Carminas are however more fitting and properly sized than the Meermin shoes. Pinky toe pinches a touch, * **Meermin Bob** 8UK a hint loose at the heel, but snug at the forefoot, * **Meermin Elton** 8UK very snug to start, much more comfy now, * **Meermin Olfe** 8.5UK could've probably gone down to 8UK but is still pretty comfortable, surprisingly not too slippy. Some of the shoes on sale are factory seconds and its not something they outrightly advertise. And the soles are much more flexible too, more similar to a Blake stitched shoe than a Goodyear welted one. Viberg 2050 9: The E width of this last is still unreleased, but its what I would likely do for another pair in this last. My right foot has always been mildly adducted and overlapping the 4th toe for. 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